Sunday, May 21, 2006
Response to Barry's Post
Comment to Habludulumen,
I strongly agree with you Barry. We know where our parents come from "far" east, they work hard to earn so little, and they all hoped to find a better future living in the small tenament buildings that this greate city had to offered for us. As far as I know, my parents are ignorant about the fact of peak oil, and what I find funny is when I told my dad about peak oil, he mentioned about getting oil from the moon? After that comment I knew I totally lost him, it seems that people not really knowing what is peak oil and the change it can create in our everyday life..
You stated, "I believe the two main responses would be that everyone would use their whole life time savings and bring their family back to where they came from. And to those who are actually from America, they are screwed." I agree with you because New York is a city too complexed. People dont get along with one another, rich corrupts the poor, racial profiling, conspiracy, and other bullshit. America's dept is in the trillions now and when peak oil actually comes, our country won't be able to handle the recession. I believe this problem will happen to China also, and if Chinese families was to go back into the villages that they once came from, I think they should learn more on how to be more self reliant, and as well grow crops from organic fertilizers and learn how to make wind mills to power their homes? But again, China don't play, they are serious when it comes down to being individual and not obeying the country. Even though we didn't learn much about how China would handle a peak oil, I think the they would have a tougher time because of it's gigantic population. They might force villages to give up surplus rations to feed the hungry cities that populate most of China and not let farmers make money off the surplus. And having my opinion based on the history of China, if villages or any individual resist China's orders, they might be detained or even killed. Based on C. But if China ended up the way Cuba did and allowed villages and small communities to grow crops and be able to be more self reliant and eliminate competition then I guess China would be a pretty good place, since most Chinese families in America still have homes back in villages or the cities. I don't know, this is sorta random, but I wanted to see what you think will happen when families actually do move back into our homelands, and what picture do you see. Do you see little chinese kids running around butt naked on a farm or village people living together growing crops, walking around Toi San picking up herbs and constructing wind mills.
And about the gangs in New York, I also believe they will rise, when peak oil comes. I think these gangs aren't going to be controlled by the poor but instead the rich merchants who already has resources to power organize crime. The poor will be the ones that most likely join these gangs, because their means of survival depends on the government and funds like welfare, SSI and all that. When oil production dips below oil demands, many people are going to be laid off from work by companies that want to save money. And as a result they're going to be forced to be in a situation where it's either do or die, so they end up joining these mobs and gangs supplied by large corporations that has excess money that will feed these people in return, commit crime to sabotage other corporations. Thats what happened in Chinatown back in the days. The chinese merchants association was a group of filthy rich asian merchants who dominated sales and stores in different areas of chinatown. They were the suppliers for the poor families who work in chinatown way below minimum wage. The income coming from these jobs were definitely not enough to pay for their living costs, and in return they decided to join these associations and be one of their pawns for the associations.
Also to mention, for the social struction in New York the immigrants play an important role in supporting the rich corporations who are on top. We clean their freaking bathrooms, we nanny their spoiled babies, and we cut our fingers making their clothes, and when our country's economy collapses, immigrants are not going to leave. When we leave, the middle class will have to substitute the lower class. The height of the upper class will drop as well as the other classes of people. This is all random thoughts, so don't mind me if you dont understand anything.
I strongly agree with you Barry. We know where our parents come from "far" east, they work hard to earn so little, and they all hoped to find a better future living in the small tenament buildings that this greate city had to offered for us. As far as I know, my parents are ignorant about the fact of peak oil, and what I find funny is when I told my dad about peak oil, he mentioned about getting oil from the moon? After that comment I knew I totally lost him, it seems that people not really knowing what is peak oil and the change it can create in our everyday life..
You stated, "I believe the two main responses would be that everyone would use their whole life time savings and bring their family back to where they came from. And to those who are actually from America, they are screwed." I agree with you because New York is a city too complexed. People dont get along with one another, rich corrupts the poor, racial profiling, conspiracy, and other bullshit. America's dept is in the trillions now and when peak oil actually comes, our country won't be able to handle the recession. I believe this problem will happen to China also, and if Chinese families was to go back into the villages that they once came from, I think they should learn more on how to be more self reliant, and as well grow crops from organic fertilizers and learn how to make wind mills to power their homes? But again, China don't play, they are serious when it comes down to being individual and not obeying the country. Even though we didn't learn much about how China would handle a peak oil, I think the they would have a tougher time because of it's gigantic population. They might force villages to give up surplus rations to feed the hungry cities that populate most of China and not let farmers make money off the surplus. And having my opinion based on the history of China, if villages or any individual resist China's orders, they might be detained or even killed. Based on C. But if China ended up the way Cuba did and allowed villages and small communities to grow crops and be able to be more self reliant and eliminate competition then I guess China would be a pretty good place, since most Chinese families in America still have homes back in villages or the cities. I don't know, this is sorta random, but I wanted to see what you think will happen when families actually do move back into our homelands, and what picture do you see. Do you see little chinese kids running around butt naked on a farm or village people living together growing crops, walking around Toi San picking up herbs and constructing wind mills.
And about the gangs in New York, I also believe they will rise, when peak oil comes. I think these gangs aren't going to be controlled by the poor but instead the rich merchants who already has resources to power organize crime. The poor will be the ones that most likely join these gangs, because their means of survival depends on the government and funds like welfare, SSI and all that. When oil production dips below oil demands, many people are going to be laid off from work by companies that want to save money. And as a result they're going to be forced to be in a situation where it's either do or die, so they end up joining these mobs and gangs supplied by large corporations that has excess money that will feed these people in return, commit crime to sabotage other corporations. Thats what happened in Chinatown back in the days. The chinese merchants association was a group of filthy rich asian merchants who dominated sales and stores in different areas of chinatown. They were the suppliers for the poor families who work in chinatown way below minimum wage. The income coming from these jobs were definitely not enough to pay for their living costs, and in return they decided to join these associations and be one of their pawns for the associations.
Also to mention, for the social struction in New York the immigrants play an important role in supporting the rich corporations who are on top. We clean their freaking bathrooms, we nanny their spoiled babies, and we cut our fingers making their clothes, and when our country's economy collapses, immigrants are not going to leave. When we leave, the middle class will have to substitute the lower class. The height of the upper class will drop as well as the other classes of people. This is all random thoughts, so don't mind me if you dont understand anything.
# posted by Nian @ 9:01 PM 
